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Post by Blessed Devil on Sept 18, 2007 20:44:18 GMT 7
This will be quite short. It's a question, really.
Why did God put a Tree of Knowledge of Right and Wrong in the Garden of Eden?
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Post by krein on Sept 19, 2007 16:03:46 GMT 7
hmmm.. can i discuss something here?
the story of creation dude is not true. wait for my next post. we have only started studying the creation story yesterday in our theology. hmmm.. wait, i need evidence for a good reply.. as long as i know, and what my prof told us, the creation story is not true, that i was made by the priestly authors when they started writing the Bible.. i just don't know if the Garden of Eve was true or not..
wait, reading the bible..
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Post by Blessed Devil on Sept 19, 2007 19:51:20 GMT 7
...oh. Well that sure was quick. Creation story is proven wrong already.
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Post by krein on Sept 19, 2007 19:57:52 GMT 7
nice nice nice.. i'll ask my proff tommorow about curiosity questions or issues there is about the Creation story.. nice nice nice.. extra recitation points! haha!
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Post by chuna on Sept 20, 2007 20:09:30 GMT 7
Actually, the creation story's just a symbolic thing. It never happened. According to our old teacher.
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Post by Blessed Devil on Sept 20, 2007 22:49:50 GMT 7
Wait a sec, that just leads to another question:
Why are we baptized?
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Post by TiniWini on Sept 22, 2007 2:48:33 GMT 7
Baptism is sort of like an initiation rite to a religion.. LOL.. That's how I see it ah.. Dunno if that's really the explanation for that..
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Post by Royal Highness on Sept 22, 2007 7:10:18 GMT 7
chuna's right... it's a symbolism...
baptism.. sort of what martin said.. renewal of the body.. kind of cleansing.. and religion too..
also it is a start of you having a vocation.. to continue His mission..
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Post by Blessed Devil on Sept 22, 2007 8:11:35 GMT 7
So then, if it's symbolism, then would anyone care to show me their interpretation of Genesis?
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Post by AJ the Ass Slayer on Sept 22, 2007 12:58:42 GMT 7
Still angry at the church 'cause they wouldn't baptize me.
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Post by Crescent Moon on Sept 22, 2007 13:42:15 GMT 7
Huh? Why?
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Post by krein on Sept 27, 2007 18:16:14 GMT 7
AJ: you're joking!
BD: you see it's like this dude, the Genesis is divided into two parts: the Priestly accounts, and the Yahwist accounts.. the Priestly accounts are from Genesis 1:1- 2:4a.. while the Yahwist are Genesis 2:4b - 25.. the Priestly acct are the Day 1 to Day 7 story.. the Yahwist didnt mentioned any Day 1 to Day 7 but both ended up the same thing..
Priestly:
Day one: Light and Darkness
Day two: Waters above and Waters below
Day three: Dry land, Vegetation
Day four: Moon Sun and Stars
Day five: Birds and Sea Creatures
Day SIx: animals and Adam and Eve
Day seven: Rest..
Yahwist:
there was waters and chaos.. God seperated the waters. waters above meant heaven and waters below meant (i forgot..).. heheh..
Then God ordered that there was land.. and there was..
Then God created the Sun, Moon.
And God created the Garden of Eden.. full of trees and stuff..
In the middle of the Garden was the Tree of Life, and the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil..
Then God created man..
Then because God saw that man was lonely, God created animals.. (he gave man the power to name the animals.)
Then God saw that man was still unhappy, he created the Woman.. (he also gave man the power to name the Woman.)
Then God said that they could eat anything in the Garden, except the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil..
and so on and so forth..
i know, it's confusing, i forgot my Theo notebook at home! haha! i'll edit this and give you guys extra ideas.. correct me if i'm wrong..
whew!
oops, i forgot, before they committed sin to the Lord, Adam and Eve were both naked.. and they weren't ashamed with it..
haha! i read my post and i forgot to answer BD's request! ahha! next time...!
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Post by Blessed Devil on Sept 27, 2007 20:26:45 GMT 7
I don't really care who authored that story. The story of Adam and Eve isn't true. It was confirmed by my Religion teacher. It's a myth made by the imaginations of priestly authors. Just like Noah's Ark was an epic which is copied from Gilgamesh.
Which leads me to another question. If we cannot trust the Bible to tell us where we came from, how can we trust it to know where we're going?
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Post by AJ the Ass Slayer on Oct 16, 2007 22:11:31 GMT 7
Krein: I'm not kidding. They wouldn't baptize me 'cause my parents weren't married. Before you're baptized, your parents need to show their marriage certificate.
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Post by TiniWini on Oct 18, 2007 0:58:47 GMT 7
Sa Catholic ba to AJ?
That's pure BS.. My cousin ain't married, but her 6-year-old daughter's baptized..
Whoever told you that is S-T-U-P-I-D..
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Post by AJ the Ass Slayer on Oct 21, 2007 22:05:00 GMT 7
Dude, at the time, we went to every Catholic church...wouldn't baptize me.
An El Shaddai church baptized me.
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Post by J e e c o . on Nov 2, 2007 18:32:57 GMT 7
^Well, maybe that shows you're quite special. ^^
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Post by Blessed Devil on Nov 2, 2007 20:13:52 GMT 7
If the creation story did not happen, what do you people think of teaching eighteen hundred children that they are being baptized in order to remove the original sin?
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Post by Chosen. Of. Chaos.† on Nov 5, 2007 17:17:52 GMT 7
^Well, I've learned from my experiences that everyone needed something 'supernatural' to follow. It's some sort of handle that keeps them on, and it kinda assures them that it's not just darkness after death. That's also why people before would worship pagans like golden idols purely because they needed something 'godly' to worship.
Human imperfections. Sigh. Or stupidity.
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Post by Blessed Devil on Nov 5, 2007 17:36:24 GMT 7
Meh, I believed that they NEED to know that after death, they're gone forever. They need to learn to live their lives to the fullest, because this life might be the only life they have. There might not be an afterlife.
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